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Jan 14, 2021

This week Sean and Mason are joined by the band Post Sixty Five to talk about their latest single "Middle Child", as well as how personal vulnerability shapes their songwriting and how the pandemic has finally slowed the creative world to their pace—for better or worse.

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Jan 7, 2021

Welcome to season two! Sean and I begin the new year with a discussion about abstract art, the roles we play as viewers and consumers, and how sometimes the best answer to a broken system is not to abandon it—but to change how we choose to interact with it.

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Dec 17, 2020

Today’s episode is our last for 2020, and with a new year approaching we thought we’d try something different. Join us for a discussion of the 1997 film The Devil’s Advocate and all the things it was trying so desperately to be.

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Dec 10, 2020

On today’s episode—our final interview of 2020—Mason talks to fine art photographer JP Ryan about pursuing photography at a state school, making art where you grew up, and what it’s like being trained at the end of the film photography era.

Check out JP's work and give him a follow.

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Dec 3, 2020

This week, we talk to writer and journalist Christopher Scott McNeill about growing up and teaching Literature in the American South, working in the independent coffee scene in Sacramento, and how those experiences — along with a brief detour via the FBI — brought him to journalism.

Chris can be found at